I walked as far as my stomach would allow from camp (I was hurting bad) and squatted down in some brush to release the demons inside me, as I was taking care of much needed business my eyes started to survey the landscape to see if anything was out and about (its huge country). The bear knocked it down and immediately tore out a piece of that deer the size of a 10 pound roast. But just shooting the bear may not be enough to stop the attack. The small vital zone around the bridge of the nose was discussed and accuracy was again emphasized. It was a mediumish sized griz also running at full tilt pursuing this Caribou. Overall length:                 9.6 inches Comment. Aim for the deadliest point you can find. Seems like KodiakHntr is one of the few that know what a big grizzly in his prime can do. Deterrent/lethal shell sequencing can be critical. When it comes to stopping a charging bear, having the right firearm, ammunition and knowledge about what to do is critical. I think the key is to shoot an autoloader and have a bayonette mounted on it. How to Pick the Right Sidearm for Backup Bear Protection. Even if a potential victim sees the bear coming, time may be short. Caliber:                            .44 Magnum A warning shot near a bear that doesn’t know you are there will usually make it run for cover. But it's a small area, the bear is moving, and the victim is under tremendous stress to respond instinctively before the bear makes contact. (Photo: Doug Larson). Because of the training, quickly drawing and firing was automatic. The best bet to immediately stop an attacking bear is to turn off its central nervous system, which requires a brain shot or a shot which severs the spinal cord. It was a mediumish Caribou Bull running at full tilt down the edge of the Kuparik in the brush and as he blasted past me at about 25 yards, I caught a second movement out of the corner of my eye and when I looked I about double chit myself! Even the .big 500 S&W has little more energy than a .30-30. I would have been [bleep] had he seen me and thought [bleep] chasing this one I'll eat the one that aint running, and this bear was in full predator mode. Barrel length:                   4.125 inches Join other outdoor enthusiasts who already get great content delivered right to their inbox. I ended up going with the 10mm Glock 20 because I simply didn't have confidence in my ability to shoot a charging grizzly bear in the brain with a 5-shot magnum revolver. B.C. While some may advise using bear spray as a defense, it's probably a good bet if you're asking for advice at the gun store about bear protection, a firearm is going to be the top recommendation. I awoke my buds in rapid fashion once I was done chitting myself literally. Bears have a lot of fat on their belly and long hair, unlike a deer, with little fat … Sure, the bear may die, but not before the victim is dead. It contains relatively soft cartilage, and the snout and ocular area are relatively thin and soft compared to the rest of the skull. Though having been bluff charged more than once they have all either hauled azz or remained content on bluffing you to stay back if they felt like holding their ground. That is inexperience speaking. A 300-grain flat-nosed lead bullet is considered by many to be one of the best for stopping charging bears. While the Taurus Raging Bull is available in a wide variety of barrel lengths … That's when the United States Geological Survey approached Gunsite for help improving a bear defense program the USGS began in 1978 after a female field geologist in Alaska was attacked and nearly killed by a predatory black bear. Hell,if they sold antlers I would save so much money I could afford to go Dolphin fishing. (Photo: Doug Larson). Taurus Raging Bull. Numerous factors are involved in trying to stop a charging bear, including the right firearm, ammunition, knowlege and much practice to hit the vital areas to end the threat. In summary, I like to shoot about 4-5 inches back from the shoulder on a broadside bear. After repeated practice, we were tested in a training simulator where a bear — actually a bear target on a motorized cart — appeared and charged without warning. Do not shoot too low. Sights:                              front red ramp, rear adjustable white outline Another range session involved a bear target mounted on a small motorized cart to simulate a charging bear. Casey Anderson prepares to halt a charging grizzly with bear spray Anderson, by this time, had his canister out, safety off, and calmly followed the sow’s progress. From what I hear, its extremely painful...and the amount of noise your hunting partner makes after being shot should destract the bear long enough for you to retreat to a safe shooting distance. IMO grizzies ar very fast, I have watched a grizzly take down a bull caribou twice and attribute the kills to strategy more than speed though speed definately helped. Grips:                               synthetic (Photo: Doug Larson). 45-70 Government. These tough, hardy animals are not easy to stop when engaged in an attack. If missing is possible, I'd rather miss in front of rather than over a bear. But bears are dangerous. Behind the nose, there is a channel in the skull leading directly to the brain. While it is reported that about 75 percent of grizzly, or brown bear, attacks are sows protecting cubs, sometimes bears, especially black bears, attack people with the intent of eating them. Weight:                            41.5 ounces Practicing moving tandem shooting drills with a charging bear target, either stationary or moving, helps shooters have instant awareness of their partner's location while also increasing firepower at the threat. If you "need" to hit a charging bear, it's better to hit than miss. However, even if the heart or lungs are destroyed, the bear may still have enough oxygen and blood in its system to carry out the attack and kill the victim. At 40 yards that was not even close to a charge. Gun safety and background on bear behavior was discussed. Then they dubbed in a shot of automatic rifle fire to make it seem the bear was stopped with a burst from the rifle. If you don't want to bring your iPad into the bathroom, we can send you a magazine subscription for free! We were introduced to charging bear paper targets. Please enable JavaScript to view the comments. Misinformation about bear behavior and attacks is everywhere, and some experts will disagree on certain points. Instead, the defender must shoot a smaller target moving much faster than a human. Here's what you need to know. He ran for about 150 yards before dieing on a gravel bar just off the closest braid of the river. There is at least one place the average person can go to get the knowledge and training necessary to increase the chance of stopping a bear attack. The student must be very familiar with his firearm, and the gun and ammunition must be up to the task. And where would you aim to most quickly stop a charging bear? It's a tough problem to solve, so practice is essential. Grenades would work but the fuses are too long. The weakest part of a bear's skull is behind the face, in a small triangular shaped area roughly bounded by the eyes and the tip of the nose. If the bear is a threat to a person's life or your property you may either call the Police (911), your local Fish and Game office, and/or shoot the bear yourself. "Almost" every grizzly that we get busted by while closing the distance to bow range will want to get a better birds eye view or smell of you before checking out. The course, taught by Il Ling New, a longtime Gunsite instructor and experienced big-game hunter and guide, got its start in 2000. Most knowledgeable people may agree the minimum caliber handgun suitable for bear protection is a .44 Magnum. Comments on this site are submitted by users and are not endorsed by nor do they reflect the views or opinions of COLE Publishing, Inc. He ended up getting the bull at the top of the hill as the bull went right around the rocks and the bear went left and they ran right into each other. The USGS apparently came to the conclusion that after 20 years of teaching bear defense, there was a lot more to it than just pointing a gun and shooting a bear. I'm not talking about a two year old that just got off mommie's tit and clumsily chases new born calves because he's half starved and doesn't know how to kill. With the knowledge above, you now understand you are in a dangerous situation: tight quarters with what appears to be a mother bear and a cub. If you intend to hunt moose, brown bear, or bison in Alaska, use the most powerful rifle you can accurately shoot. I have had many bears come a LOT closer than that before breaking off "charges." The incident is recounted at about 19:00 to 21:30 in the video. 01; Bow Shot on a Charging Bear! Gunsite teaches the student to draw quickly under stress, aim carefully for the bridge of the bear's nose, and shoot until the charge stops and the threat goes away. The dollars invested on your hunt may tempt you to take a shot beyond the distances at which you are certain of hitting the vital zone. Since bears are the most robust and hardest-to-stop four-legged predators on the continent, instruction focused on bear protection. Price:                                $949. In a typical attack, the victim may have as little as .5 to 1.5 seconds to react. Just How Would You Stop a Charging Bear? Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. The animal … Yes, the bigger cartridges do slightly more damage than a .45 ACP, but we are talking about animals that can sometimes soak up .375 H&H rounds as if they are BBs. It is not like defending against a criminal attack where the defender is taught to shoot to center of mass. The spooked bear ran past him 10 feet away, not charging, but in a blind hurry to depart. I've had some close encounters, but this time both my nerves and hunting instincts were put to the test. Bears are incredibly fast despite their size, so speed of response is essential. More Survival. I've never shot at a charging grizz but have shot a couple of charging blacks. It seems to me that many will get as close as 20 yards or closer and then circle to check your smell before hauling azz. Since the spinal cord is so small, it makes sense to aim at the brain. A charging bear is "faking" about 90 percent of the time, but if I knew I was going to get shot in the face one out of ten times I went out my front door, I'd go out the back way. Or less if your nerves hold. Latest. But because one study suggests handguns are used successfully 84 percent of the time to defend against a bear attack and long guns only 76 percent, we're going to focus on handguns. It's a topic that interests many people, even if they never set foot in bear country. And then realize that you probably won't start shooting until 20 yards. At that point, Lonnie wanted a slug. Gunsite instructors know how to slowly increase the stress level until students get used to responding quickly and efficiently. Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'. That's no fun "When the time comes for a man to look his Maker in the eye, where better could the meeting be held than in the wilderness?" For the .44 Magnum, the generally recommended load is a hard-cast lead flat nose bullet weighing about 300 grains and driven at about 1,300 feet per second. I'm not saying that they run out of steam after a couple hundred yards, but simply that compared to Caribou, grizzly are not long-distance athletes. All I kept thinking was "Please dont see me , Please dont see me!" I had no weapon and my pards were sleeping like babies no more than 40 yards away That [bleep] ran past me and never even saw me, having his full focus of attention on the caribou in front of him. Consider Hair and Fat: Don’t Shoot Too Low Especially where we are always trying to defeat their ability of winding us and approaching them from down wind. The emphasis is on accuracy, not power. IF the bear is REALLY intent on mauling-killing you and it's not just a bluff charge, wait until it's within 15 yards...ESP with a 12 gauge.. Why pack all that messy meat out of the bush when we can just go to the grocery store where meat is made? Gunsite Academy, located near Prescott, Arizona, has been in operation for more than 40 years. Drills included tandem shooting with two shooters side-by-side moving as a team to increase firepower on a charging bear and have awareness of each other. I'll also add that after having bow hunted grizzlies a bunch and having stalked probably 20-30 grizzlies up close and personal with a bow or the camera that Arts statements above abut 40 yards not being charging distance , is correct. To do so requires training and practice under time constraints and pressure. But bears have thick, strong skulls shotgun slugs or even rifle bullets may not penetrate. A Pachmayr Decelerator grip replaced the factory grip. The biggest threat to penetration is the front shoulder – stay away from it. I have had more than a couple uncomfortable experiences with Grizzlies and browns but fortunately have not had to kill one as of yet in self defense. It takes hunters far too long to bring a slung rifle into action to shoot an elk, let alone use it to stop a charging grizzly—and it’s not uncommon for grizzlies to charge hunters. Knowledge of what to do if attacked by a bear is important, but actually practicing the techniques in a training class is what makes the difference between life and death. Remember, if the bear has been attracted to your home or camp by improperly stored food or garbage, it can NOT be legally killed. Haphazard shots result in wounded and lost animals. dont want a wounded bear getting back up to finish the job! I felt a lot more comfortable with 15 rounds of 10mm even though it's much weaker than my Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan that's chambered in … The first shot took the bear in the chest. Most charges are bluffs. ... charging bear sooner than most lead core bullets of similar weight and shape. The bear was moaning, his huge head still moving, as Brush aimed the Ruger to fire a finishing shot. It turned out to be a 90-pound female. Then came square-range drills, where fundamentals like drawing and shooting under time constraints were practiced at targets from 3 to 15 yards. Shoot some targets with your bear stopping loads at 10, 20, 30 and 40 yards to get a firm picture of brain punching accuracy. While people are advised to take certain precautions when in bear country — like keeping food in tightly closed containers and sleeping in separate tents so if a bear attacks one tent, the person in the other tent may be able to stop the attack — the fact remains that no matter what precautions a person may take, a bear may still attack. Maybe even a baby seal safari. Bears are soft skinned and the rib bones are fairly light. And a flat nose bullet will penetrate further than a hollow point because it does not expand,  which slows a bullet. First adopted by the U.S. military in 1873, the .45-70 Government has been one … A bullet striking this area has the greatest chance of penetrating the skull, hitting the brain and stopping the attack immediately. © 2021 Grand View Outdoors All Rights Reserved I now never leave camp to take care of business without a weapon as I have twice been caught off guard by a griz while taking a chit and it aint no fun! But I am not gonna lie and say that when they start coming right towards you to check you out that chit dont get a little giddy in your head. The ammunition also is critical, since the bullet must penetrate heavy muscle and bone, and drive into the vital organs. Once he's too close to shoot then make use of the bayonette. Your thinking....he's gonna circle us, he's gonna circle us.We have video of one bear that bluff charged my buddy twice while rooting something good, but never came for real. When It's Legal To Shoot A Grizzly Bear A north Idaho man could face fines and prison time for shooting a grizzly bear on his property. The class is in two parts, one covering protection using a handgun and the other using a long gun such as a rifle or shotgun. The best place to shoot a charging bear is in the nose, and that’s not a very large target. Having “engaged” with many bears over my 70 years, I suggest that the “best gun” is the one which one has on hand, and can get into action and on target extremely quickly. So the agency came to the firearms experts at Gunsite for help. It also tends to keep moving in a straight line to the vital organs because it crushes its way through bones and tissue instead of being deflected. The bear is already showing aggression. 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